Comments on: Artisan bread baking tips: Poolish & biga https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/ The place for the ambitious home baker Sat, 21 Dec 2024 07:21:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-658173 Sat, 21 Dec 2024 07:21:07 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-658173 In reply to kees.

Hello Kees,
We want to encourage you to make as much pizza dough with different techniques as possible, to see what you like best yourself.
We have a very helpful schedule with times, temperatures and yeast % for all kinds of scenarios here:
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…gh-recipe/
If you want to work with a poolish, we recommend using 20-30% for a pizza dough. But also try the 24 hour recipe (without the poolish).
There are many ways, leading to a good pizza.

Good luck with your pizza business

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By: kees https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-658170 Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:54:44 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-658170 Hi
i am starting a pizza business and would like to make my dough with poolish method, so what would be the percentage of poolish is recommended to use ? are we calculating this percentage from the final dough we need?
for 16 to 24 hours fermentation ,what would be the best hydration and yeast percentage please and also is it good to keep in room temperature or in fridge please. help will be great. thanks.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-658065 Fri, 26 Jul 2024 06:07:05 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-658065 In reply to Priyo Setiawan.

Good Morning,
You can find our recipe for pizza dough with a poolish here:
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…a-poolish/

Selamat Makan

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By: Priyo Setiawan https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-658064 Fri, 26 Jul 2024 01:56:38 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-658064 Selamat Pagi
Kami ingin resep membuat adonan Pizza dengan Poolish.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-658027 Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:18:19 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-658027 In reply to Jorge.

Hello Jorge,
No that is not what we mean. Using up to 50% preferment will have benefits, like the chewiness, depth of taste, shelf life et cetera. Depending on the recipe / formula and the desired outcome (and your own taste) you can add a very small % preferment to your recipe or can go very high (up to 50%) of the final dough. You could say that these benefits stop at some point and it is no use to go higher than adding 50%. That said, you can find recipes and experiments that go over 50% preferment. There is a whole world to explore and lots of baking to do, to establish what works best with any given recipe and what would be your own personal preference.
What we wanted to show here, is the right amount of yeast to use in your preferment / poolish, because it is most important to get the development stage just right, when adding it to your final dough.

Enjoy your baking and experimenting

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By: Jorge https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-658020 Wed, 03 Jul 2024 00:22:10 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-658020 From 0% to 50% preferment in the final dough it controls in some way the chewiness of the final product? (when you said: “The higher the percentage of pre-ferment you use the more your bread crumb will have a nice chewy texture (but it stops at around 50%)”

You mean that 50% or lower of % preferment in the final dough will produce a less chewy final dough?

And from 50% to 100% preferment (100% in case of biga or some sponges) the chewiness will increase?

I understood right? Thanks!

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657970 Thu, 23 May 2024 11:49:17 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657970 In reply to Robin R.

Thank you for sharing Robin, we also want to keep encouraging bakers to use scales, for big and small amounts!

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By: Robin R https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657965 Fri, 17 May 2024 20:00:47 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657965 Thank you for the valuable insights! I wanted to share info on a precision scale I use for small measures. The name is Maxus digital milligram scale, 50g capacity, readable to 0.001 gram. It comes with a 20g weight to verify accuracy, a small scoop and a tweezer. It allows you to zero the scale with a small bowl, or set tare, then measure your yeast accurately.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657911 Wed, 03 Apr 2024 08:52:53 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657911 In reply to Susan Smith.

Thank you Susan,
Baby steps is exactly the pace we would advice. And enjoying the journey of course.
And in case you have not spotted them yet, these are our other general baking tips :
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…king-tips/

Happy baking!

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By: Susan Smith https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657905 Sat, 30 Mar 2024 15:47:31 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657905 Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. I am taking baby steps in my baking experience and appreciate the work that you’ve shared.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657823 Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:40:24 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657823 In reply to Drew458.

As bakers, we do consider baking to be an exact science and as such we personally like the idea of measuring everything, even the tiny amounts. Using spoons means you can deviate up to 20% compared to using scales. If you want to be consistent in baking we have found we cannot do without our scales.

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By: Drew458 https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657820 Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:27:26 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657820 In reply to Ric Whiting.

Interesting. A standard measure of yeast is 2.5tsp which is 7gm. So that’s 0.7gm per 1/4tsp, or 0.35 per 1/8tsp. A tsp of water is a gnat’s hair under 5gm, so 1/8tsp water weighs 0.625gm. 100 of these add up to 62.5gm. Fully dissolve your 1/8tsp in that and you get 0.028gm yeast per teaspoon. Do the math to get the fractional amount of yeast you want; 4tsp gets you 0.112gm, just over 1/10gm of yeast.
Do we really need that level of precision?

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657793 Mon, 29 Jan 2024 08:52:36 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657793 In reply to Lucian.

Hello Lucian,
Thank you very much. A good indication would be between 0.5 (18 hours) and 0.3 percent (24 hours).
You can also check out our table percentage that we use for pizza, that is also a good starting point for your poolish.
See: www.weekendbakery.com/posts…gh-recipe/
Hope it will turn out great and your summer will be enjoyable and not too hot.

Greetings from Holland

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By: Lucian https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657791 Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:19:46 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657791 Really great piece on poolish! For predictability’s sake I like to cold ferment the poolish in a fridge, our summers are hot and humid. What’s a good yeast percentage for cold fermenting 20-24 hours? Thank you.

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657722 Mon, 04 Dec 2023 11:26:49 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657722 In reply to Ken Nelson.

Hello Ken,
Yes, you can take an amount of flour from the original recipe. A good start for you would be to take one cup of flour and make the poolish with that.
To be honest we are not so ‘good’ with cups because it is not exact, but if one cup of flour is about 125 grams we suggest the following:

So for example if you make a poolish and want to leave it for 12 hours:

1 cup /125 g (amount of flour)
0.1% (yeast amount used in summer for 12 hour poolish)
To calculate 1% of 125g of flour you divide 125 g by 100 and multiply by amount in the table above;
125 / 100 x 0.1 = 0.125 g instant yeast
(for fresh yeast multiply the amount by 3)
If it is cold we would double this amount.

The amount is very, very small, so if you cannot weigh it on a precision scale, you need to guess(timate) the amount like we show in the pictures above.
Use a 1/4 teaspoon for this – which needs to be filled for about 1/4.

Just give it a try and keep an eye on the poolish to make sure it does not over-ripe. Underdevelopment is usually not a problem, because you can correct this in the final dough by a longer proofing period or the use of a bit of extra yeast.

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By: Ken Nelson https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657718 Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:48:01 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657718 I HAVE A BREAD RECIPE AND WANT TO USE A POOLISH. DO I USE THE FLOUR FROM THE ORIGINAL RECIPE TO MAKE MY POOLISH.

LETS SAY MY ORIGINAL RECIPE CALLS FOR 3 CUPS OF FLOUR HOW MUCH FLOUR DO I REMOVE FROM THE ORIGINAL 3 CUPS OF FLOUR. WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS I MIX WITH EQUAL AMOUNT OF WATER. TO THIS MIXTURE HOW MUCH YEAST DO I ADD?

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By: Weekend Bakers https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657707 Mon, 06 Nov 2023 10:59:35 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657707 In reply to Mohammadreza.

Yes, you can make a ‘straight’ dough with instant dry yeast, without first making a poolish or biga that is later used in the final dough. But this method of first making a preferment like a poolish or biga, delivers in general a much more interesting loaf with better taste and texture and which is also easier to digest.
A great recipe for a straight dough with instant dry yeast is this one:
www.weekendbakery.com/posts…wich-loaf/

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By: Mohammadreza https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657706 Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:14:05 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657706 Hi
can we use instant dried yeast instead of Poolish and biga?

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By: Adarsh Avuku https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657694 Thu, 19 Oct 2023 19:04:28 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657694 Hello there ,

I am trying to make poolish for 20 kg flour , how much amount of poolish I need and how much amount of yeast should I put . Help would be appreciated thank you so much

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By: JR https://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/comment-page-7/#comment-657660 Mon, 24 Jul 2023 09:45:25 +0000 http://www.trifles.nl/?p=1272#comment-657660 How fast would biga and or poolish ferment at 28-30C(my room temp)?

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